spy46:

ok lets try it this way. we got the chasim, knothole, ranger and hals armor. so thats 1 set that looks , one set that looks like a guy and the other 2 are ... what ever.

knothole armour changes with your morality,
id say it looks close to whatever you think a "dark paladin" looks like, if youre .


personally, id only want to see 2 or 3 sets... preferably both dyable, 1 shiny, 1 matt.

id never wear the full set, because that feels just... crap.
id just use the gloves and boots, and maybe a breastplate, with my outfits...

im sure everyone wants their "cool" looking "dark" "paladin" "armor" ...but i dont like that look...
...and i hate to be 'forced' to wear it, as i am in most rpgs.


...and this is where id add pictures to further explain my point... but... fables not on the pc is it..?

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ok ...like the guy said Albion is not OUR world.....who the hell cares if we stopped wearing armor then. the "albionites" may still be wearing armor today. anyways the whole point is...i want more options. we had very few clothing options in F2 and so i think we need more clothing and armor with or without defense points.really i dont care i just want armor to make me feel powerful and look awesome

Eireman:

Honestly, what's the deal, why do you have such a vendetta against having armor.  It looks (as long as it made that way by developers), it makes you feel powerful even if you aren't at the moment, and there are TONS of possibilities with it.  Imagine the variations and combination's you could make with the right amount of armor.

Because it's so retarded at this point that it'd be distracting.  No one was a knight in the Industrial Revolution, and pretending to be one will just draw away the greatness of the current time by trying to live in an older one.

I mean, they've already done Medieval.  Let's all move on together and try to enjoy the wonders of this time period instead of trying to resurrect the old one's wonders.  Focus on Mechanics and Engines and Magicians and Elaborate Facial Hair and Riflemen, not Castles and Ballistas and Knights and Archers and Shields and Armor.

The combinations you could make with the right amount of armor can't be any greater than the combinations you can make with clothes.  That's a weak argument.  You just want to look cool even when it doesn't fit with the world around you.  Do you wear black trenchcoats and sunglasses and leather boots with 20 straps?  No, only weirdos and Goths do that because it doesn't fit.  "Oh, but it's not Earth, so we can do whatever we want!"  Whether you like it or not, Albion directly parallels Britain.  That fact was never a mystery, and disregarding it just so you can wear the clothes you want is selfish and insulting.

NO ARMOR!

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i dont care if there is or isnt any armor in the game, i just want more options of clothing, more styles of shirts, jackets etc for each class.

BUT if for what ever reason armor WAS in the game again, it should do some thing more than the typical shirt, if it looks like armor then it should act like armor or dont put it in.

Well, I really like the clothes system in Fable 2, but I hope they make a more streamlined version for 3.

People saying that because Albion isn't our world (which it isn't) they might still wear armour, I think you're wrong. Because if in Fable 2, there was very little armor, then later on, in fable 3, there would be even less, wouldn't there?

Shisou:

Eireman:

Honestly, what's the deal, why do you have such a vendetta against having armor.  It looks (as long as it made that way by developers), it makes you feel powerful even if you aren't at the moment, and there are TONS of possibilities with it.  Imagine the variations and combination's you could make with the right amount of armor.

Because it's so retarded at this point that it'd be distracting.  No one was a knight in the Industrial Revolution, and pretending to be one will just draw away the greatness of the current time by trying to live in an older one.

I mean, they've already done Medieval.  Let's all move on together and try to enjoy the wonders of this time period instead of trying to resurrect the old one's wonders.  Focus on Mechanics and Engines and Magicians and Elaborate Facial Hair and Riflemen, not Castles and Ballistas and Knights and Archers and Shields and Armor.

The combinations you could make with the right amount of armor can't be any greater than the combinations you can make with clothes.  That's a weak argument.  You just want to look cool even when it doesn't fit with the world around you.  Do you wear black trenchcoats and sunglasses and leather boots with 20 straps?  No, only weirdos and Goths do that because it doesn't fit.  "Oh, but it's not Earth, so we can do whatever we want!"  Whether you like it or not, Albion directly parallels Britain.  That fact was never a mystery, and disregarding it just so you can wear the clothes you want is selfish and insulting.

NO ARMOR!

Notice how even in Fable 2, you could tell that there were still some aspects of the medieval world.  Also, the fact remains ALBION IS NOT EARTH!  Its a parallel of Britain but its not Earth and its not our world you f****ng twit. 

It doesn't matter if its a parallel or not, Middle Earth was a parallel of Europe/Asia but did Tolkien completely model it after EVERYTHING that happened in Europe, NO.  Armor would fine in the new universe so long as it was limited.  I agree it would be odd if every soldier/guard was running around in the stuff, but for the player I think it would be awesome.

Armor should be something that ONLY those who can afford it can wear it.  You're supposed to be king, a grand ruler, AND a Hero of a Bloodline that spans hundreds and hundreds of years.  NOT having armor would be the only retarded thing about it.

Also, "selfish and insulted", a bit dramatic don't you think?

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Shisou:

Okay, if you're going to start calling me names, I'm ending this here.

Sorry, I don't mean to name-call or whatnot.  But you realize where I'm coming from right? 

I do.  You want armor badly enough to make reasons for it to work, even when it shouldn't.  That, to me, only proves that it's definitely still possible for Lionhead to do it, but doesn't convince me that it's what they should do.

I say out with the old, in with the new.  Forget armor.  Guns can pierce it, it looks out of place,  it's impractically heavy, and the lack of an Armor stat removes any real need for it besides cosmetics.  It just seems like if they're going to include armor, it'd take some really deliberate reaching to get there, and that'll probably make things awkward in-game.

Also, I'm a big fan of hyperbole.  Its strengthening of your argument outweighs its cheesiness.

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Shisou:

I do.  You want armor badly enough to make reasons for it to work, even when it shouldn't.  That, to me, only proves that it's definitely still possible for Lionhead to do it, but doesn't convince me that it's what they should do.

I say out with the old, in with the new.  Forget armor.  Guns can pierce it, it looks out of place,  it's impractically heavy, and the lack of an Armor stat removes any real need for it besides cosmetics.  It just seems like if they're going to include armor, it'd take some really deliberate reaching to get there, and that'll probably make things awkward in-game.

Also, I'm a big fan of hyperbole.  Its strengthening of your argument outweighs its cheesiness.

Than who's to say Lionhead won't add an armor stat?  Also, not ALL guns can pierce ALL armor.  If made correctly, tempered the right way, and with the correct metal, armor can easily defect a musket ball. 

There were actual accounts of this happening during the crusades when Ottoman's had muskets and fired at Varangian Guards in Istanbul.  Some died, some shrugged off a musket blast and went on fighting.  However, in Fable 2 there were things like the Turret Rifle/Pistol and the Clockwork Rifle/Pistol (my favorite), which is capable of firing multiple shots.  So that puts a big hole in the armor idea (quite literally). 

Still though, even if "out with the old, in with the new" is the best way to go, if some certain Albion king thought that way.  Pieces of the old world would still have to remain in some way, whether its in a great dungeon accessible only by the mighty, or behind a Demon Door.  Even some smiths would still have to know SOME way of making armor, and if you asked them to make it, for a high price, they couldn't help but oblige.

Getting rid of armor ENTIRELY just isn't practical OR probable.

or it was passed down through generations of Heroes but skipped Sparrow because the parents died before it was given to them, then someone could find it and trace the bloodline,

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Well actually it is practical and probable... Um yeah...

An original flintlock pistol only had one shot 'till it was a club, LH said no to that didn't they? As a matter of fact a flintlock "pistol" couldn't pierce plate mail. However in this new day and age, (industrial age) people wouldn't wear armour for the sake of fatigue. Armour was heavy, and out of date, no one wanted to be shiny.

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Anyone else seeing this debate ending in some designer creating a single suit of armour so that you can't be damaged at all in it, and so heavy that you can't move in it?

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By the skin of our teeth - now it's killing time.
Angel in my pocket, d by my side.
We ain't going nowhere 'cause heroes never die."

Like I said, Eireman, you're making plenty of reasons why armor could make an appearance, but that doesn't mean it should.  It just doesn't fit.  It's that simple.  They didn't decide to go back on their decision to exclude Bows in Fable 2 just because it's still a semi-possibility and it'd be kind of cool.  Why should they go back on their decision to exclude Armor for the same reasons?

And the Armor stat was removed from clothes because they wanted to separate the clothes you wear from your experience in combat so that you didn't wear things that you found ugly for the sake of having the best stats.  It was a design decision that worked beautifully in Fable 2 and will no doubt be continued in Fable 3.

thefurie... I'm speechless.

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Lol i have the exact same opinion Shisou. If there was armour in the game, i would expect it too be at the farthest, the fall of the guild.

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I like armor.

I also don't care if it doesn't fit in, its a game.

Games aren't reality, so it could fit. Not trying to make justifications, it just seems pointless to debate about this when its a video game.

Personally I want armor, I also want an Assassin's Creed style clothes, it wouldn't fit, it wouldn't make sense but I want it and I don't care.

There you go, argue if you want.

thefurie - you made me laugh, you get 10 points.

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Yeah games aren't reality, but they can be close to it. Do you want laser guns and bazookas in fable 3 too?

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glad to see that someone seems to be switched on. armor is awesome and all, but people please think rationally here, the time that fable 2-3+ is set is way past the armor revolution, unless you count such armor wearing blokes as Ned Kelly for example, no one really wore armor during this time period. in the gunpowder age, most if not all metals were used in the manufacturing of rifles and ammunition.

i read somewhere else that instead of having people quarreling whether to include armor or not, a DLC should be released in which the player can play in a world before fable 1, in which heroes were abundant and were fighting all types of , be it, giant dragons, giant serpents, and giants for that matter

with this in place, the armor, giant swords/axes and bows and arrows, etc. will be back for those who are in a need for some serious hobbe slaughtering.

.....p.s. i - and from what i have read, many others agree - want a horse to be included in the game!! imagine, riding on horseback similar to that of mount&blade or zelda or the award winning book series Rangers Apprentice. sweeeeeeeeeeeeet... horse, dog, man, and one giant world to explore... now THAT is a game!! just look at how zelda was with a horse, and that was back then! with today's technology, a lot more can be done.

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The devs have said no horses already.  The regions are just too small for them to really do any , and the amount of work that would go into them isn't really justified by their usefulness.

As for "games aren't reality", they obviously try not to deviate too much from reality.  You wouldn't be okay with it if they decided to include spaceships and laser guns in Fable 3, so why are you okay with it if they include armor?  It's the fantasy world Albion paralleled to the how Britain was in a certain time period.  That's just how it goes.  And once you start breaking rules, where does it stop?  Will Fable 4 have flying pirate ships that shoot dragons just because it's cool?

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I actually want a machine gun augment in the game that allows semi-automatic fire on guns with no reloading needed. It'd fit with my smooth criminal style heroes.

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By the skin of our teeth - now it's killing time.
Angel in my pocket, d by my side.
We ain't going nowhere 'cause heroes never die."

what happens when you run too fast in F2?

lags and things are there before they load in, like getting hit by a ghost bandit or what ever.

so on horseback .... could be a bad idea, might not be, SO LONG AS YOU DONT NEED TO HAVE IT.

as for wanting a machine gun, well i want an Ion Cannon then

i would hope that later Fable games do go more into myth age stuff, like the telling of a story or some thing, then we could have armor and actually make it more of a *what kind should i use for this mission/quest* as not all armor is the same or reacts the same to the same kinds of attacks.

i just want armor...aka armour

mikeboy92:

i just want armor...aka armour

Wanting it isn't enough.

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@PengiunSnuSnu

Yes, yes I do. You have no idea how big my smile got from reading that! I know it sounds stupid but I think it would be hilarious, though it would probably have to be in a sandbox mode or something outside of the story line.... wait a second! A sandbox mode!! That wouldn't really work but I would like to have a mode that I could unlock anything in and use it in the Fable Universe, though I do see that this would be way too big a stretch from the Fable-esque style of gaming.

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i decree that all male citizens will where full battle armor

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