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  •  09-01-2008, 22:45 3046877

    Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    I just read that there might indeed be some repercussions for those who have raked in a lot of gold using the glitch but I doubt Sam meant to mispell "there" when he was speaking Stick out tongue [:P] 
    During my interview yesterday Lionhead Studio's Sam Van Tilburgh was pretty mum about the gold-churning glitch that was discovered in Fable 2's pre-release mini Pub Games.

    He said that the patch for the game should be going live very soon, but when I asked him if the studio or Microsoft would be doing anything to those who raked in so much virtual cash he hit me with a no comment, followed by a "their could be repercussions."

    Do tell? Is there a gold reset on our horizon? Or does he just mean that people will have to deal with the heavy burden of playing Fable 2 knowing full well they're cheater McCheaters?

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  •  09-01-2008, 22:50 3046889 in reply to 3046877

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    This has be discussed, flamed and locked in a thread already, Do not post this again, we do not need more flame threads.

  •  09-01-2008, 22:51 3046891 in reply to 3046877

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    Yup, this interview was posted by a member hereSmily [:)]

  •  09-01-2008, 22:56 3046902 in reply to 3046891

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    I didn't think to look in the main Fable Forum for this. My appologies.

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  •  09-02-2008, 1:16 3047068 in reply to 3046902

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    toddquest:
    I didn't think to look in the main Fable Forum for this. My appologies.

    Long story short:

    LionHead didn't make the arcade version of the pub games so they won't make any patches.

    Sam hates the fans and desperately wishes that Microsoft will make a patch so he starts talking about things he has no clue about.

    It actually takes 400 hours or more of using the Fortune's Tower feature to make the 100 mil neccessary to buy everything in Fable 2 and yet LionHead thinks that isn't enough time so they want a patch in order to make the gamers be completely unable to ever buy everything in the game.

    The Pub Games are unwinnable without this feature so most people will just hate, dislike, forget about or simply never get them. Therefore LionHead must desperately wish for all gamers to go horribly into debt and be frustrated if they so badly want to get rid of the single feature that makes the game enjoyable.

    Conclusion: LionHead hates all the fans and want them to have a miserable experience when they play Fable 2 by starting off so deep in debt that they'll never be able to pay it. They also hate the idea that the fans might enjoy the Pub Games rather than be frustrated out of their minds and hate life.


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  •  09-02-2008, 2:13 3047146 in reply to 3046889

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    AngelousWang:
    This has be discussed, flamed and locked in a thread already, Do not post this again, we do not need more flame threads.

    As long as the thread avoids spiraling into another flame war then this thread will be fine. Smily [:)]


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  •  09-02-2008, 2:18 3047154 in reply to 3047068

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    DarthTrethon:

    toddquest:
    I didn't think to look in the main Fable Forum for this. My appologies.

    Long story short:

    LionHead didn't make the arcade version of the pub games so they won't make any patches.

    Sam hates the fans and desperately wishes that Microsoft will make a patch so he starts talking about things he has no clue about.

    It actually takes 400 hours or more of using the Fortune's Tower feature to make the 100 mil neccessary to buy everything in Fable 2 and yet LionHead thinks that isn't enough time so they want a patch in order to make the gamers be completely unable to ever buy everything in the game.

    The Pub Games are unwinnable without this feature so most people will just hate, dislike, forget about or simply never get them. Therefore LionHead must desperately wish for all gamers to go horribly into debt and be frustrated if they so badly want to get rid of the single feature that makes the game enjoyable.

    Conclusion: LionHead hates all the fans and want them to have a miserable experience when they play Fable 2 by starting off so deep in debt that they'll never be able to pay it. They also hate the idea that the fans might enjoy the Pub Games rather than be frustrated out of their minds and hate life.

    Wow, why the hate manNervous [:nervous:]


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  •  09-02-2008, 2:34 3047176 in reply to 3047154

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    AustrianDeathMachine:

    Wow, why the hate manNervous [:nervous:]

    Because my free time is quite limited and I just can't waste it to grind in fable 2 for a few miserable coins per hour. If I'm going to spend time rising funds for a gameworld then I expect to do so effectively and while I'm not totally happy with 250,000 per hour it's still a far better prospective than say 500 per hour. I mean seriously....I get 1/400 of Albion in one hour of my time and I very well think that's a fair exchange. Who likes a game that is unbeatable?? Who will waste their time going deeper into debt?? But then you get the moderators & developers continuously saying they'll punish me for it if they can even though they have no control over Microsot's XBL and no cotrol over the Pub Games' development regarding a possible patch?? Are they stupid enough to not realize that all that is solely aimed to take the little fun some find in the Pub Games out of them?? You don't do destroy the last enjoyable bit of a game and the last thing that makes it worth their time to make it unwinnable unless you hate the fans.


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  •  09-02-2008, 2:36 3047178 in reply to 3047068

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    DarthTrethon:

    toddquest:
    I didn't think to look in the main Fable Forum for this. My appologies.

    Long story short:

    LionHead didn't make the arcade version of the pub games so they won't make any patches.

    Sam hates the fans and desperately wishes that Microsoft will make a patch so he starts talking about things he has no clue about.

    It actually takes 400 hours or more of using the Fortune's Tower feature to make the 100 mil neccessary to buy everything in Fable 2 and yet LionHead thinks that isn't enough time so they want a patch in order to make the gamers be completely unable to ever buy everything in the game.

    The Pub Games are unwinnable without this feature so most people will just hate, dislike, forget about or simply never get them. Therefore LionHead must desperately wish for all gamers to go horribly into debt and be frustrated if they so badly want to get rid of the single feature that makes the game enjoyable.

    Conclusion: LionHead hates all the fans and want them to have a miserable experience when they play Fable 2 by starting off so deep in debt that they'll never be able to pay it. They also hate the idea that the fans might enjoy the Pub Games rather than be frustrated out of their minds and hate life.

    What? Sorry but can you make yourself clear. What is the patch ment to do?


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  •  09-02-2008, 2:43 3047186 in reply to 3047178

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    gearsofwolf:

    What? Sorry but can you make yourself clear. What is the patch ment to do?

    Go on youtube and search "Fable 2 Pub Games Glitch". It's about the only thing that allows players to render profit and LionHead wants it patched even though it would take 400 hours of using it to make the money neccesary to buy everything in the game.


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  •  09-02-2008, 2:46 3047192 in reply to 3047176

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    DarthTrethon:
    AustrianDeathMachine:

    Wow, why the hate manNervous [:nervous:]

    Because my free time is quite limited and I just can't waste it to grind in fable 2 for a few miserable coins per hour. If I'm going to spend time rising funds for a gameworld then I expect to do so effectively and while I'm not totally happy with 250,000 per hour it's still a far better prospective than say 500 per hour. I mean seriously....I get 1/400 of Albion in one hour of my time and I very well think that's a fair exchange. Who likes a game that is unbeatable?? Who will waste their time going deeper into debt?? But then you get the moderators & developers continuously saying they'll punish me for it if they can even though they have no control over Microsot's XBL and no cotrol over the Pub Games' development regarding a possible patch?? Are they stupid enough to not realize that all that is solely aimed to take the little fun some find in the Pub Games out of them?? You don't do destroy the last enjoyable bit of a game and the last thing that makes it worth their time to make it unwinnable unless you hate the fans.

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    Answer: Wrong! Yes you are.


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  •  09-02-2008, 3:48 3047253 in reply to 3047192

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    daxworth:

    Question: Are you Dwight Schrute?

    Answer: Wrong! Yes you are.

    Am I supposed to know that name or what you mean by that??


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  •  09-02-2008, 4:49 3047280 in reply to 3047186

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    I know bout the Glitch and they should fix it. But they can't reset my gold with this patch. How do they know if I Glitch or not?

    What they need to do is fix the Glitch and reset the leaderboreds, but leave peoples gold alone. So only the gold from people who have the patch will show and only the gold they win after they download the patch.


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  •  09-02-2008, 7:51 3047355 in reply to 3047154

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    DarthTrethon:

    toddquest:
    I didn't think to look in the main Fable Forum for this. My appologies.

    Long story short:

    LionHead didn't make the arcade version of the pub games so they won't make any patches.

    Sam hates the fans and desperately wishes that Microsoft will make a patch so he starts talking about things he has no clue about.

    It actually takes 400 hours or more of using the Fortune's Tower feature to make the 100 mil neccessary to buy everything in Fable 2 and yet LionHead thinks that isn't enough time so they want a patch in order to make the gamers be completely unable to ever buy everything in the game.

    The Pub Games are unwinnable without this feature so most people will just hate, dislike, forget about or simply never get them. Therefore LionHead must desperately wish for all gamers to go horribly into debt and be frustrated if they so badly want to get rid of the single feature that makes the game enjoyable.

    Conclusion: LionHead hates all the fans and want them to have a miserable experience when they play Fable 2 by starting off so deep in debt that they'll never be able to pay it. They also hate the idea that the fans might enjoy the Pub Games rather than be frustrated out of their minds and hate life.

     

    Sam certainly does NOT hate the fans that's crazy talk Crazy [:crazy:]. For all we know he may have been privy to some information or discussion concerning that patch.

    By earning gold over time the game will unfold as it is played. I have a feeling that earning gold in game will be easier than expected especially once you have a G o o d [Good] number of properties.

    The Pub games are not unwinnable. Have you checked the leader boards for Spinnerbox or Keystone? I won $60,000 on Keystone just this morning. I lost $30,000 on the blood stone $50 though. Watch out for the triples in that game.afraid [:afraid:]

    Lionhead does not hate their fans rather the opposite really. They want to give the player the feeling of going from rags to riches. That is a great feeling in game play. I suspect that any repercussions would amount to restoring the game play to what Lionhead intended.

     



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  •  09-02-2008, 7:52 3047356 in reply to 3047253

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    DarthTrethon:
    daxworth:

    Question: Are you Dwight Schrute?

    Answer: Wrong! Yes you are.

    Am I supposed to know that name or what you mean by that??

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  •  09-02-2008, 12:16 3047568 in reply to 3047176

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    In response to all the patch hate, here's an idea...

    Did you know you can remove the patches for all games on your Xbox 360 by doing the hard drive maintenance?

    Or, even better, you can choose to not install the patch at all and continue to glitch your merry way to being a multimillionaire even after the patch is released.  The only issue I see is that you will be unable to post your tournament scores on the leaderboard, though if you're glitching for money you probably aren't playing the tournament anyway.

    Since the gold transfer and everything appears to be done inside Pub Games, I don't see any reason for the E v i l [Evil] glitchers to be whining so much about this.

    Also, I don't see why you shouldn't be punished for glitching, at least in the form of gaining E v i l [Evil] points.  After all, you are effectively stealing from the house by glitching.

    I have to admit, I've fallen to the lure of glitching my way out of debt.  I am quite relieved to not have huge debt anymore since I did some really stupid stuff trying to get my points up.

    I'll probably work on another character and do it the legit way for my starting G o o d [Good] character, then save the glitched one for my E v i l [Evil] character.

    Honestly, I don't see why people go to such extremes over this stuff. WTF [:wtf:]


  •  09-02-2008, 13:17 3047618 in reply to 3047568

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    I had a thought about how to "reset" scores without needing to know who glitched and who didn't.

    Legit

    Bet 1500 bust lose 1500

    Bet 1500 get 16 win 100

    Bet 1500 get 11 lose 400

    Bet 1500 get 15 break even

    Bet 1500 get 17 win 200

    Bet 1500 get 33 win 1800

    Bet 1500 get 21 win 600

    Bet 1500 get 13 lose 200

    Bet 1500 get 12 lose 300

    Bet 1500 get 15 break even

    Total Bet 15,000 total winings 300 That's 2% which is about avarege from what I understand.

     

    Same outcome with the glitch (correct me if this is wrong)

    Bet 1500 bust lose 150

    Bet 1500 get 16 win 1450

    Bet 1500 get 11 win 950

    Bet 1500 get 15 win 1350

    Bet 1500 get 17 win 1550

    Bet 1500 get 33 win 3150

    Bet 1500 get 21 win 1950

    Bet 1500 get 13 win 1150

    Bet 1500 get 12 win 1050

    Bet 1500 get 15 win 1350

    Total Bet 15,000 total winings 13,800 or about 92% there is no way anyone will get this ratio from playing legit

     

    What they could do is simply reset everyone's gold to be 2-5% of their total amount bet and that way non glitchers might even benefit and glitchers would still have some gold left. Heck since some have been doing a lot of it they would in fact be getting more than those who don't play as much due to having higher number of points.



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  •  09-02-2008, 14:01 3047680 in reply to 3046877

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    They'll probably do some witty crap, like detect enormous amounts of gold, and have those people be arrested and given a life-time's worth of community service in the actual game.
  •  09-02-2008, 15:00 3047745 in reply to 3047618

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers

    With the feature you can get out whe the card row total is 2 and still make a proffit while gwtting out when the card row total is 10 or more you make at least 850. You can't predict the winning opportunities while playing legit because more often than not you'll end up losing at least five times in a row while the winnings are minnimal. Jackpots are extremely rare(in my experience less than one per hour and I've played over 40 hours) but if you push for jackpots while playing legitimately you'll be broke in no time so even when the jackpots come around chances are you'll have bailed with a smaller winning just to recover a bit of your losses. In fact you won't even be able to maintain a regular winning rate because unavoidable loosing streaks are pretty regular....unless you can afford to bail with a very small card face value and still make a profit when they happen.
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  •  09-02-2008, 15:10 3047755 in reply to 3047745

    Re: Repercussions for Fable II Pub Games Glitchers